Hello everybody! I’m 37, having a Class 2 with VCL but maybe opting for a Lead Flight Test Engineer position, who demands an EASA Class 2 Medical. (So will see what it will happen…)
In my opinion the “only by day” statement in the Medical 2 is really strong. I’m already in Flight Test with graphics and my “deutanism” is not noticeable
Great to have such place to see in which direction the discussion is going in Europe. I have the feeling that an Operational Test will be great for me, for example.
Hello everybody! I am 30 years old in the middle of a TR for a B737. During the transfer of license for this particular airline in Europe, the Authority of my flight license decided to retest my color vision AFTER they discovered that the AME made comments in my Class 1 Medical Certificate file that I failed Ishihara but passed a Lantern test. What is more stupid in this story is the fact that they issued me a Class 1 Medical, so I continued with my training even paid for a non refundable TR.
They called me at the Aeromedical center to sit for a CAD test which I failed. Now my Class 1 is canceled and I have to also end my career after reaching this point. I am in disbelief at what to do next to be honest and so pissed that other continents developed already more applicable tests for us the color deficient people.
Any input is welcomed, how can I help bringing these people in a Court of law?
Hello thank you for sharing your situation, I am shocked at what has occurred and I will try my best to help you in any way I can. I myself am in a similar situation so I can fully understand and sympathise with this. This is also very similar to what happened in ENAC (Italy) but was overruled by EASA and everyone who passed via lanterns was given grandfather rights. You can view that story in our news section. News | The European Colour Deficient Aircrew Association (ecdaa.com)
In order to help could you please provide some more information on the following:
1.) Which authority issued the class 1 and which authority asked you to sit the CAD test ?
2.) When did you get the class 1 , how long have you had the medical for?
3.) When did you pass the lantern test ? And which lantern test did you pass?
4.) Where did you pass the lantern test?
If you don't feel confident in sharing this information on the forum , do send me an email at ecdaa.info@gmail.com
It would also be great to arrange an online meeting to discuss this further once I have those details.
@Jordan Penning Thank you very much for your reply, I really appreciate it.
The story is like this. In January 2017 I applied for a class 1 medical in Czech Republic, but I failed it due to my color vision deficiency and I got a class 2 medical limited to day time only. When I found out, I was a bit devastated cause I had no idea about my condition.
But then, 3 months after, I went to Italy and they granted me a Class 1 medical after I failed Ishihara, but passed Beyne Lantern test and I was considered Chromatically Safe.
In 2019 I have initiated the transfer to AustroControl for my license and medical because of the CPL and MEP examiner availability ( much faster than CZ)
During this process, a very slow one, they couldn't transfer my medical files to Austria because there was no record of a class 1 medical obtained in Czech Republic as I obtained it in Italy in 2017.
Last year, in 2020 I went for an airline interview and I passed it. After this, they asked me if I am able to pay 30k for the type rating and I took the shoot.
This year I've started the TR, and in order to have the rating on my license, I had to transfer it to Ireland and by doing so, I've signed the end of my career as a pilot.
When AustroControl obtained the medical files from Italy, they saw that I failed Ishihara but I passed it with a Beyne Lantern test. It was probably suspicious for them as Czech Republic also failed me for a Class 1.
So what they did is to invite me a couple of days ago in Vienna for a CAD test.
I failed that with flying colors if I might say
My TR stopped immediately obviously and now I have to post my medical to AustroControl.
I've lost time, money, energy and a path. Looking for alternatives at the moment and even consider another country where this is acceptable.
@luciann.vasile thank you for explaining the situation in more detail. I think the next step is to have a meeting to discuss this further as the situation seems rather complex. Would you be able to send me your email and availability for an online call to ecdaa.info@gmail.com
My name is João Rosado and i have a slight CVD, when i did the CAD test i got around 6 SNU red deficiency wich meant i could atually be a Pilot, since the tolerance is 12, nevertheless i was not applying for Pilot but for ATC wich was/is my dream but there is no tolerence for any CVD in that field. I really hope that you can bring some change in this industry and change the lives of some of us. If you need anything i will help this great project.
Do you have any plans on implementing the same type of tests for the ATCs?
Thank you!
Hello everybody! I’m 37, having a Class 2 with VCL but maybe opting for a Lead Flight Test Engineer position, who demands an EASA Class 2 Medical. (So will see what it will happen…)
In my opinion the “only by day” statement in the Medical 2 is really strong. I’m already in Flight Test with graphics and my “deutanism” is not noticeable
Great to have such place to see in which direction the discussion is going in Europe. I have the feeling that an Operational Test will be great for me, for example.
Best Regards to everybody
Hello everybody! I am 30 years old in the middle of a TR for a B737. During the transfer of license for this particular airline in Europe, the Authority of my flight license decided to retest my color vision AFTER they discovered that the AME made comments in my Class 1 Medical Certificate file that I failed Ishihara but passed a Lantern test. What is more stupid in this story is the fact that they issued me a Class 1 Medical, so I continued with my training even paid for a non refundable TR.
They called me at the Aeromedical center to sit for a CAD test which I failed. Now my Class 1 is canceled and I have to also end my career after reaching this point. I am in disbelief at what to do next to be honest and so pissed that other continents developed already more applicable tests for us the color deficient people.
Any input is welcomed, how can I help bringing these people in a Court of law?
Hello Everyone,
My name is João Rosado and i have a slight CVD, when i did the CAD test i got around 6 SNU red deficiency wich meant i could atually be a Pilot, since the tolerance is 12, nevertheless i was not applying for Pilot but for ATC wich was/is my dream but there is no tolerence for any CVD in that field. I really hope that you can bring some change in this industry and change the lives of some of us. If you need anything i will help this great project. Do you have any plans on implementing the same type of tests for the ATCs? Thank you!